In this episode of The EBP Exchange, I sit down with Dr. Carol Tolman for a candid conversation about two of the most misunderstood forces in literacy implementation: fidelity and flexibility. We unpack what it really means to stay true to the science of reading while still honoring the needs of teachers, students, and real classrooms.

We explore common barriers to implementation, where schools get stuck, and how knowledge, not just programs, drives meaningful change. It’s an honest discussion about literacy, leadership, professional courage, and navigating the tensions that come with doing this work well.